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Beware Loyal Customer Freebies.
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Mike Swift
2023-07-23 01:17:20 UTC
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I had an e-mail from Virgin advising me that as my contract was ending
as a loyal customer I could have a new 18 month contract at the same
price of my existing one.

I jumped at it but when the paperwork arrived I found I didn't have my
Full House but something called MIXIT and a few additions, Many of the
channels we watch were missing, Gold, National Geographic and dozens of
others.

I tried top contact VM but found it a pain in the bottom, text contacts
that didn't work, bots that would shame A.I.

I eventually tried my VM phone which demanded a memorable name password
I set up 30 years ago and have long forgotten, I twigged that pressing #
got me through.

I waited 30 minute and got crap music so gave up, I tried again in the
afternoon and after 15 minutes got put through, unfortunately it was to
South Asia.

The chap wasn't totally difficult to understand but I finally managed to
make him understand that I wanted to cancel my wonderful "Loyal Customer
update" under cooling off and return to my current Full House package.

I spent an hour plus on the phone while he tried to return my old
package, fortunately I was using 150 on my VM landline which didn't cost
me.

He offered me a thing called MAXIT with Sky Sports and M350 broadband,
MAXIT having all the Full House Channels for £6 a month more than I was
paying.

I ended when he admitted he was getting an error message when trying to
activate my new package, I have received my new package e-mail contract
but not the channels I was promised.

He did say a colleague would call me on Sunday to sort this out.

Virgin are an utter shambles but I suspect Sky aren't mush better.

Mike
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Brian Gaff
2023-07-23 09:35:05 UTC
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Left hand and right hand again. I don't have tv, but I did manage to renew
the contract, but when the email with the info arrived it has a built in
cost of living price rise by some percentage every year, so come the due
date up it will go. I rang back and got a whole £1 taken off. Generous?
If I did not have so many emails with Virgin and need to try to create new
ones and get others to respect them, I'd be gone tomorrow. Up to about a
year ago, you could talk to them and get what you wanted including an
engineer who knew you were blind etc, now its disjointed and confusing most
of the time and seemingly never share data you have just given to their
colleague.
Also a friend of mine also blind was forced into having the cvoice over
internet phone when they would have had to rewire the landline. They guy
came over was basically rude and said, look mate, you got a working phone,
what more do you want, most people only have mobiles and went without
showing him any of the new snazzy call blocking the voip contains.
I wonder what happened to the engineers?
Brian
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I had an e-mail from Virgin advising me that as my contract was ending as a
loyal customer I could have a new 18 month contract at the same price of my
existing one.
I jumped at it but when the paperwork arrived I found I didn't have my
Full House but something called MIXIT and a few additions, Many of the
channels we watch were missing, Gold, National Geographic and dozens of
others.
I tried top contact VM but found it a pain in the bottom, text contacts
that didn't work, bots that would shame A.I.
I eventually tried my VM phone which demanded a memorable name password I
set up 30 years ago and have long forgotten, I twigged that pressing # got
me through.
I waited 30 minute and got crap music so gave up, I tried again in the
afternoon and after 15 minutes got put through, unfortunately it was to
South Asia.
The chap wasn't totally difficult to understand but I finally managed to
make him understand that I wanted to cancel my wonderful "Loyal Customer
update" under cooling off and return to my current Full House package.
I spent an hour plus on the phone while he tried to return my old package,
fortunately I was using 150 on my VM landline which didn't cost me.
He offered me a thing called MAXIT with Sky Sports and M350 broadband,
MAXIT having all the Full House Channels for £6 a month more than I was
paying.
I ended when he admitted he was getting an error message when trying to
activate my new package, I have received my new package e-mail contract
but not the channels I was promised.
He did say a colleague would call me on Sunday to sort this out.
Virgin are an utter shambles but I suspect Sky aren't mush better.
Mike
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Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange
Indy Jess John
2023-07-23 10:09:03 UTC
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without showing him any of the new snazzy call blocking the voip
contains.

I got switched to VOIP a while ago and nobody mentioned to me that VOIP
had facilities not available on the previous landline.

One thing I had noticed is that if a message has been left the
intermittent dialling tone which was immediate on the previous landline
so that I noticed it in the short time before the number I wanted to
call started dialling, on VOIP it sounds at longer intervals and after a
short delay by which time an outgoing call has started to dial and it is
suppressed. I now have to make a special effort to check if I have
voice messages rather than being reminded as part of making an outgoing
call.

Jim
Brian Gaff
2023-07-23 17:26:15 UTC
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I must admit I don't have voip here, so I don't know, I'm only going on what
my other blind friend told me. Incidentally he has an MBE for services to
sport, but he might as well be a pleb like me for all it matters to many
companies these days who never seem to train customer facing staff that come
to your house in the courtesy the customers deserve and expect. Basically
Virgin are no longer the fastest as most people are using cable connections,
with a selected few having Fibre, meanwhile all the other companies are
going fibre in a big way, offering the same speed both ways. That would suit
me as I upload data.
I reckon even cloud services would be tolerable on symmetrical broadband.
Now its soon going to be that most computers offer an option to work from
the cloud, meaning that when you change computer or operating system all the
settings are stored.
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without showing him any of the new snazzy call blocking the voip
contains.
I got switched to VOIP a while ago and nobody mentioned to me that VOIP
had facilities not available on the previous landline.
One thing I had noticed is that if a message has been left the
intermittent dialling tone which was immediate on the previous landline so
that I noticed it in the short time before the number I wanted to call
started dialling, on VOIP it sounds at longer intervals and after a short
delay by which time an outgoing call has started to dial and it is
suppressed. I now have to make a special effort to check if I have voice
messages rather than being reminded as part of making an outgoing call.
Jim
Oliver
2023-07-23 10:44:27 UTC
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Post by Mike Swift
Virgin are an utter shambles but I suspect Sky aren't mush better.
Sky get far fewer complaints than VM in all media services but
especially regarding TV.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/telecoms-and-pay-tv-complaints
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Mike Swift
2023-07-24 19:10:54 UTC
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Post by Mike Swift
Virgin are an utter shambles but I suspect Sky aren't mush better.
Sky get far fewer complaints than VM in all media services but especially
regarding TV.
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-
consumers/telecoms-and-pay-tv-complaints
I didn't get the promised call so rang them again, after a long wait I
got a different person and had to explain everything again, he put me on
hold and after 20 minutes of silence I hung up and tried again a couple
of hours later.

I got through after a few minutes this time and spoke to yet another
person but this time a lady with perfect English, I explained again and
had an explanation why my package hadn't been updated which I didn't
really understand.

I checked that I would get everything on my email package summery and
was assured all would be fixed by Tuesday evening.

Fingers crossed.
Mike
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Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
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